critical hits with spells? i swear.... - Guild Wars Forums

wyndrider · Aug 02, 2005, 05:03 AM // 05:03

lately, i've been scoring 2.5x dmg with my spells every now and then.

my buddy claims that there's not such thing but he's not a caster and I have no reason to lie.

If it's not a critical strike, then what is causing this? does anyone out there know what it is and what generates more of these "critical hits"?

Lord Malikai · Aug 02, 2005, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Vulnerablities ?

wyndrider · Aug 02, 2005, 05:11 AM // 05:11

I've asked everyone in my party and the only thing that might have done it was "winter" which makes the spells do cold dmg.

This is against fire mobs, the ones in the last mission.

So these mobs would be vulnerable to cold dmg, however, the dmg wasn't consistent. It seemed to happened randomly, with or without "winter" being on.

The behavior is much more like a critical strike.

Lasareth · Aug 02, 2005, 05:23 AM // 05:23

The enemy using Healing Signet allows you to deal double damage. Done by the hands and fists of the titan. Is this the situation you refer to?

aB- · Aug 02, 2005, 05:38 AM // 05:38

They could also be using frenzy?

SJG · Aug 02, 2005, 06:38 AM // 06:38

2.5 times sound too much for Frenzy or Winter, which can both cause double damage.

I sometimes noticed that my direct damage spells, like Vampiric Gaze, were doing double damage and it took me a while to figure out that it was because of Frenzy, which causes a straight doubling of damage.

Elemental damage against mobs with that vulnerability causes double damage too.

Are you sure its 2.5 times normal damage or is that just a rough figure?

Morganas · Aug 02, 2005, 06:41 AM // 06:41

I've seen this too, it's weird and happens completely at random. My guess is that some monsters are less armored on some bodyparts (like head) so you do more dmg in the rare instance you hit them there.

A NERD1989 · Aug 02, 2005, 06:41 AM // 06:41

they could be in frezny while using healing signet.
is a normal crit strike 2x?

wyndrider · Aug 02, 2005, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasareth

The enemy using Healing Signet allows you to deal double damage. Done by the hands and fists of the titan. Is this the situation you refer to?

it's quite possible and seems logical. However, it wasn't double damage, it was more like 2 and a half times normal damage.

wyndrider · Aug 02, 2005, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJG

2.5 times sound too much for Frenzy or Winter, which can both cause double damage.

I sometimes noticed that my direct damage spells, like Vampiric Gaze, were doing double damage and it took me a while to figure out that it was because of Frenzy, which causes a straight doubling of damage.

Elemental damage against mobs with that vulnerability causes double damage too.

Are you sure its 2.5 times normal damage or is that just a rough figure?

I have calculated to be exactly 240% so it's just under 2 and a half.

Aug 02, 2005, 07:21 AM // 07:21

spells cant critical, so its just most likely hitting a part of the body with lower AL to the element.

StigTC · Aug 02, 2005, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Well I did some minor notes with my ranger on the Hell's Precipice mission and although I seemed to hit for more than 2.5 times the damage while using winter, it does seem very similar to what I was experiencing, winter should be more cinsistent than a critical hit though. And like Lasareth said, hands and fists of the titan use healing signet every now and then, giving them -40 AL, but that shouldn't give you that much extra damage, it would however appear similar to critical hits since it only happens every now and again.

Ole Man Bourbon · Aug 02, 2005, 08:09 AM // 08:09

do bonuses stack in this game?

Aug 02, 2005, 05:03 AM // 05:03	#1
wyndrider Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: E/Mo	critical hits with spells? i swear.... lately, i've been scoring 2.5x dmg with my spells every now and then. my buddy claims that there's not such thing but he's not a caster and I have no reason to lie. If it's not a critical strike, then what is causing this? does anyone out there know what it is and what generates more of these "critical hits"?

Aug 02, 2005, 05:08 AM // 05:08	#2
Lord Malikai Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Guild: Imperial Fist Guild Leader Profession: W/E	Vulnerablities ?

Aug 02, 2005, 05:11 AM // 05:11	#3
wyndrider Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: E/Mo	I've asked everyone in my party and the only thing that might have done it was "winter" which makes the spells do cold dmg. This is against fire mobs, the ones in the last mission. So these mobs would be vulnerable to cold dmg, however, the dmg wasn't consistent. It seemed to happened randomly, with or without "winter" being on. The behavior is much more like a critical strike.

Aug 02, 2005, 05:23 AM // 05:23	#4
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	The enemy using Healing Signet allows you to deal double damage. Done by the hands and fists of the titan. Is this the situation you refer to?

Aug 02, 2005, 05:38 AM // 05:38	#5
aB- Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	They could also be using frenzy?

Aug 02, 2005, 06:38 AM // 06:38	#6
SJG Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	2.5 times sound too much for Frenzy or Winter, which can both cause double damage. I sometimes noticed that my direct damage spells, like Vampiric Gaze, were doing double damage and it took me a while to figure out that it was because of Frenzy, which causes a straight doubling of damage. Elemental damage against mobs with that vulnerability causes double damage too. Are you sure its 2.5 times normal damage or is that just a rough figure?

Aug 02, 2005, 06:41 AM // 06:41	#7
Morganas Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	I've seen this too, it's weird and happens completely at random. My guess is that some monsters are less armored on some bodyparts (like head) so you do more dmg in the rare instance you hit them there.

Aug 02, 2005, 06:41 AM // 06:41	#8
A NERD1989 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Elite Black Ops Profession: W/Mo	they could be in frezny while using healing signet. is a normal crit strike 2x?

Aug 02, 2005, 07:21 AM // 07:21	#11
Blackace Guest	spells cant critical, so its just most likely hitting a part of the body with lower AL to the element.

Aug 02, 2005, 07:46 AM // 07:46	#12
StigTC Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Communist Vikings	Well I did some minor notes with my ranger on the Hell's Precipice mission and although I seemed to hit for more than 2.5 times the damage while using winter, it does seem very similar to what I was experiencing, winter should be more cinsistent than a critical hit though. And like Lasareth said, hands and fists of the titan use healing signet every now and then, giving them -40 AL, but that shouldn't give you that much extra damage, it would however appear similar to critical hits since it only happens every now and again.

Aug 02, 2005, 08:09 AM // 08:09	#13
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	do bonuses stack in this game?